Expanding the character sections will just add to the gigantic size of the page, so in order to have paragraph explanations we need to move characters to their own separate pages.
Pages for Project M characters will encourage users to write more coherently and add new information in a fluent way, rather than just having a list of some apparent changes from Melee or Brawl which can be unclear. No one wants all the information on one huge, cluttery page many characters have changes that cannot be expressed simply in bullet points. Here's where I stand- the current Project M page sucks. We don't need new articles for the Melee veterans except for maybe Roy, Mewtwo and other drastically changed veterans- Brian Don't try me! 18:33, 16 October 2013 (EDT) Of course the PM Brawl characters are essentially new characters.Do t s The Goldeneye 15:56, 16 October 2013 (EDT).Jigglypuff the Magic Dragon ( talk) 13:59, 16 October 2013 (EDT) I would be okay with this, but not particularly saddened if the proposition fails. IIRC there's a separate tier list as well, and that fulfills another part of the article. While I'm uneasy about giving some of these characters pages (as Toomai said below, "like Melee but a little bit like Brawl too" isn't very good) some characters (such as the Melee-exclusive veterans, who have character renders) I think are deserving of a separate page, and the metagame is vastly different in Project M from any other game as well, which makes pages slightly more interesting.Place your vote here if you would like to see Character (PM) pages that go into just as much depth as those for the real games. Note: A "Yes" decision here implies that relevant images, templates, and categories will also be allowed. Topic: Allow Project M to have independent character pages Recruiting new users from offsite to vote for your side will not help.
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As with everything on the wiki, winning the vote does not guarantee winning the decision. You can re-vote later if you do it properly. Reasons that break the given guidelines will be removed the vote itself will remain. Unsigned votes will be deleted, as will those with incorrect formatting. Votes that are unnecessary (a "no" in a subtopic where the user already voted "no" in the parent topic) will be deleted. You may change your votes and/or reasons at any time, ensuring that it still conforms to the above. If enough others decide to side with this option it may be added for real. If what you want to see has no option, vote in whatever's closest and state what you want to see as your reason. Express your reasoning as completely as possible, preferably without referring to anyone else's reasons, so that you will not need to elaborate in the future. Instead, put your entire opinion on the table. If you do choose to include a reason, do not argue with what others have already said, as this is sure to be a controversial subject and arguing doesn't help anybody. You may include a reason with your vote, or you may not. Place your vote in each applicable section. Read every section before you vote in any of them some are mutually exclusive. This debate is to determine whether we should change this policy, and in what way. The current policy on notable hacks (including Project M) is to contain all info about the hack on a single page and refrain from mentioning it on other pages. Highly notable hacks do have a place on-wiki. It is only ambiguously a fan game, as it is a hack and not a bottom-up recreation. It defines its own notability criteria by being the only Brawl hack to reach widespread public recognition and tournament participation. However, Project M has a few properties that make it hard to fit into this generality: And now, multiple people are requesting that we do the same here.Īt present, SW:NOT defines that we should keep away from fanon and fan games due to the impossibility of defining a notability criteria. It has come to my attention that this Project M thing is getting pretty big: it already has recognition and equal standing to the three real games on SmashBoards and in tournaments. 5 Votes: Delete notable hacks such as Project M from the wiki. 4.4 Subtopic: Usage of Project M article icon. 4 Topic: Give Project M equal standing with the real games. 3 Topic: Allow Project M to have other independent pages. 2.3 Subtopic: Allow Project M to have moveset subpages. 2 Topic: Allow Project M to have independent character pages.
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